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| 0001150 | OpenClonk | Objects | public | 2014-10-13 18:59 | 2016-03-22 21:30 | ||||
| Reporter | timi | ||||||||
| Assigned To | Maikel | ||||||||
| Priority | normal | Severity | tweak | Reproducibility | always | ||||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | ||||||
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| Target Version | Fixed in Version | git master | |||||||
| Summary | 0001150: Acid drilling: Breaking pipes frustrating | ||||||||
| Description | It'd be great if there could be a warning before pipes break. Or maybe the clonk just can't move forward when the pipe is too long? Also the name pipe doesn't really fit the graphics nor the behavior, maybe "hose" (Schlauch) would be more appropriate? | ||||||||
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Maikel (developer) 2015-10-16 19:37 |
This would need some engine support I suppose unless we want to introduce a regular check in the line. Maybe even better is to have no maximal number of vertices, so that lines never break. |
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Sven2 (developer) 2015-12-07 22:48 |
The pipe in Acid Drilling is specifically configured to have a maximum length. It does not break due to a maximum number of vertices. I added this to make the scenario interesting (otherwise you only need one pump). I also added it as a test pilot that we may want to apply to all scenarios. But so far it doesn't seem to be liked very much. |
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Maikel (developer) 2015-12-09 08:59 |
I think it would be good to have a maximum length for pipes. But then we need a clear warning before the breaking happens. |
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Zapper (developer) 2015-12-09 11:40 |
I looked into that very shortly and that might need engine support. I think currently pipes break after a set amount of vertices (engine-wise), but line length instead of vertices would be a lot more intuitive for the player. The question is what happens if you e.g. throw a pipe down the ocean and it rips off. The player would probably expect that it just hangs like a rope. Sooo, only let it break when being carried or something? |
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Armin (reporter) 2015-12-09 14:28 |
>only let it break when being carried or something? It could be strange when the line suddenly breaks after you collect it again. One problem I have with limited lengths is that they would hurt the fun of the diving helmet which is using normal pipes to explore the deep. Such pipes would only use a few vertices but a length of 4000px or some. |
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Sven2 (developer) 2015-12-09 15:50 |
We could have long and short pipes with the long pipe having infinite length (but not being available e.g. in acid drilling). I think the short pipes require the player to build some more interesting stuff, like multiple stations to pump long distance. Pumping something across the complete map always feels a bit like a cheat. On the other hand, people also say that Openclonk is way too hard for beginners right now, so I'm also not opposed to just keeping pipes at infinite length (except for Acid Drilling). |
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Zapper (developer) 2015-12-09 19:21 |
Nothing against that, Sven. But as always: the key point here is communicating the length to the player. The player should at least get a warning when the pipe is above 75% of its maximum length or so. For that the line would need to figure that out somehow. |
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| Date Modified | Username | Field | Change |
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| 2014-10-13 18:59 | timi | New Issue | |
| 2014-10-18 10:02 | Maikel | Target Version | => 6.1 |
| 2015-10-16 00:33 | Sven2 | Target Version | 6.1 => 7.0 |
| 2015-10-16 19:37 | Maikel | Note Added: 0003949 | |
| 2015-10-16 19:37 | Maikel | Status | new => acknowledged |
| 2015-12-07 22:48 | Sven2 | Note Added: 0004290 | |
| 2015-12-09 08:59 | Maikel | Note Added: 0004300 | |
| 2015-12-09 11:40 | Zapper | Note Added: 0004301 | |
| 2015-12-09 14:28 | Armin | Note Added: 0004302 | |
| 2015-12-09 15:50 | Sven2 | Note Added: 0004303 | |
| 2015-12-09 19:21 | Zapper | Note Added: 0004304 | |
| 2016-01-09 13:25 | Maikel | Target Version | 7.0 => 7.1 (Bugfix update) |
| 2016-03-22 21:30 | Maikel | Status | acknowledged => resolved |
| 2016-03-22 21:30 | Maikel | Fixed in Version | => git master |
| 2016-03-22 21:30 | Maikel | Resolution | open => fixed |
| 2016-03-22 21:30 | Maikel | Assigned To | => Maikel |
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